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We need more philosophy without facts

TomatoesModern intellectualism is flawed in a fundamental manner - there is too much dependence on ‘facts’ and pre-existing opinions, and too little tolerance for ideas that have not been previously researched.

And the really terrible part is that these ‘facts’ usually are not. If a researcher publishes some soft research in some area - for example, on how memories are stored, you will see people reference this research as if it were fact. It’s usually not - it’s a supposition, it’s a theory backed by statistical data, it’s just a step towards a more complete understanding, but it’s not a fact.

The university system teaches people to have ideas that are based off the published results of other people - but some ideas cannot reference pre-existing work because the work is obscure or no research has been done in that area. One would have to make an argument that has suppositions in it for which there are no references. Obviously, such an argument may be wrong, but this does not make it pointless - rather, if the argument is compelling logically, then parts of it may be correct. There is great value in reading through different theories that are not all based on the same facts - because seeing a bunch of different ideas from different people is exactly what may bring the flash of intuition that takes us all forward.

Let me get more concrete and give an example: Let’s say we are holding an argument about the fundamental structure of matter - our educational system encourages people to back up their arguments by referencing pre-existing opinions and simply quoting a bunch of people researching string theory. If a layman attempted to bring in a new idea to explain the structure, he would be asked to back it up. It cannot be backed up obviously, because he is not a researcher - but the thing is that he may be right. If the professionals would consider his argument on its merits, and simply as a philosophical excercise, they may be able to reach a better result when they combine it with their actual knowledge.

A disadvantage of too large a specialisation in a field is that one tends to lose perspective. One tends to dismiss ideas that threaten the core path you are following. It is good for people to be following different paths, and the problem with always needing to reference pre-existing works is that people will always tends to follow the orthodoxy, leading to less creativity and fewer new ideas.

I am of the opinion that people should be encouraged to follow different theories and try different methods. Most will fail, but a small number will produce new thoughts and ideas. And that’s what has brought us this far as humans - it’s not our research or analysis, it’s our ideas.

  • "The university system teaches people to have ideas that are based off the published results of other people . . ."

    Great essay! University system produces professionals for the industry or academia and they need a standard corpus so that candidates can prove proficiency of it before being issued a license to practice. These professionals self-servingly defined this corpus to be science.
  • This reminds me of some LibriVox (free public-domain mp3 audio books) recordings
    by Evelyn Underhill, she spells out the limits of cognition with amazing clarity, it's quite entertaining

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evelyn_Underhill

    "Underhill was one of the most widely read writers on the spiritual life in the first fifty years of the twentieth century, and with her book Mysticism, published in 1911, no other book of its type met with such success until Aldous Huxley's The Perennial Philosophy of 1946"

    here's that 1911 book on Librivox
    http://is.gd/aJLT [librivox.org]

    here's the first chapter, "the point of departure"
    http://is.gd/aJMx [.mp3]

    -- Brian twitter.com/brianjesse
  • Philosophy without facts is religion, not science.
  • Christopher Hassell
    Firstly, perspective comes from many widespread facts and views both, I counter. Creativity comes from many many views of things as they are all combined into how they could be from how they are or were. People wanting to be "right" or "heard" doesn't increase the likelihood it will happen by any stretch of probability... as soothingly democratic as it may seem.

    In contrast, the idolization of the "unlimited/unaffected/spontaneous" is usually a farce. It is really a mask for speaking earlier memories and idle daydreams. "Theories of matter" from pure thought are obsolete for a reason.

    Seeking for the tabula-rasa is a mistake. There is no "world without prejudice of facts/pre-conceptions"... but instead we always produce a fever dream of incoherence with every time... created by marginal memories and rumor, just as limited as ever. Moreso. because it is a negation of our real experience, real thinking and real knowledge.

    In fact, welcome your fever dream into the origin of pagan superstition, myth, nameless phobias, prejudices, fuzzy thinking and gossip.

    Incoherence for any point or statement, itself, is fatal to the listener of any theory or any idea, so there is no victory in achieving it. Facts link us all together. Opinions merely sell our judgement about our life's history of facts.
  • Acceptance of unresearched opinion does not mean that researched opinion would not still exist, and would not still be the most important scientific tool.
  • Nyeneime Essien
    i dont think the university is the reason why we base our results on other published work. We r born with a blank slate and at the same time with knowledge but how do u we bring it out. WE LEARN through PUBLISHED WORK. Even cavemen had published work (tools)(silly). The had trees and seeds and rocks and they used these to invent other things. . Statistical data works for me because it gives me an idea of the real world. The word 'FACT' is overrated and I understand where u r coming from but I will disagree with u about less creativity because the human race has done more in lets say 100 years in maybe cc.10,000 years of human existence or more. Ya dig
  • Nyeneime Essien
    i dont think the university is the reason why we base our results on other published work. We r born with a blank slate and at the same time with knowledge but how do u we bring it out. Even cavemen had published work (tools)(silly). The had trees and seeds and rocks and they used to invent other things. They used WE LEARN through PUBLISHED WORK. Statistical data works for me because it gives me an idea of the real world. The word 'FACT' is overrated and I understand where u r coming from but I will disagree with u about less creativity because the human race has done more in lets say 100 years in maybe cc.10,000 years of human existence or more.
  • I wih we could ground this discussion in reality by discussing a specific real life example where what is being proposed would have been helpful.
  • The classic example involves the Earth, Fire, Water and Wind philosophical argument. Back before science was as wide as it is now, the only way to work out what our world was made up of was by thought - philosophy without experimentation. Some got it more wrong, some got it more right. But the fact that they thought about it freely, led to the abundance of theory that spurred a lot of modern scientific thought.

    But nowadays, this type of free thinking would hardly be possible, because of the needs to reference existing works.
  • Fred
    See Paul Feyerabend for more ideas like this.
  • I think his point is that "think for yourself" instead of studying previously published literature.
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